Comments on: Pet-food recall: A matter of responsibility http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/ Blogging by a team of pet-care experts led by Dr. Marty Becker. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:09:40 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Lee Orback http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/comment-page-3/#comment-23162 Lee Orback Tue, 03 Apr 2007 22:34:33 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/#comment-23162 I thought perhaps some of you might be interested in talking on paltalk, we can have a room to speak about are issues and concerns and possible solutions,we can speak to one another on mic, have are own moderators in a controled format. My nic is SentientShadows add me and i'll open a room or open one of your own. hope to be able to meet some of you there. I thought perhaps some of you might be interested in talking on paltalk, we can have a room to speak about are issues and concerns and possible solutions,we can speak to one another on mic, have are own moderators in a controled format. My nic is SentientShadows add me and i’ll open a room or open one of your own. hope to be able to meet some of you there.

]]> By: Lee Orback http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/comment-page-3/#comment-17149 Lee Orback Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:45:48 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/#comment-17149 Hey again everyone. heard this today and don't see it posted here yet. peta has called for all dry menu foods products to be pulled and currently is being ignored, am digusted with menu food on many levels but espessialy for killing animals to test the tainted food. And another toxin has been found in the food a fertilizer that used in plastic products as well. peace everyone-Lee Hey again everyone. heard this today and don’t see it posted here yet. peta has called for all dry menu foods products to be pulled and currently is being ignored, am digusted with menu food on many levels but espessialy for killing animals to test the tainted food. And another toxin has been found in the food a fertilizer that used in plastic products as well. peace everyone-Lee

]]> By: Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/comment-page-3/#comment-13090 Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:02:32 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/#comment-13090 The correction information published by AP and referenced here appears to be outdated. Please see the company press release from Saturday. http://www.menufoods.com/recall/PRESS%20RELEASE03241409.htm It reads in part: "Menu Foods Initiates Market Withdrawal of All Varieties of Recalled Wet Pet Food to Ensure Consumer Protection" This is not exactly a recall but does instruct retailers to remove the product from the shelves. They make it sound as if the stores are at fault for not removing known tainted product. But if you read my previous post (above) I think there is pretty good evidence that it goes much farther back and this would be one way for them to stop the bleeding (so to speak) of continually having to add lots to the list while never actually acknowledging the contamination of more lots. For the record, Brandy had only been given a few cans of this stuff. She had previously been eating Alpo and had been doing very well and gaining weight. Only after eating the Sprout did she suddenly become so sick. Part of our vet's objection to doing a post mortem was based on our lot #s not being on the list. It cant get on the list unless someone puts it there. So far a call to the FDA has not been returned. The correction information published by AP and referenced here appears to be outdated.

Please see the company press release from Saturday.
http://www.menufoods.com/recal.....241409.htm

It reads in part: “Menu Foods Initiates Market Withdrawal of All Varieties of Recalled Wet Pet Food to Ensure Consumer Protection”

This is not exactly a recall but does instruct retailers to remove the product from the shelves. They make it sound as if the stores are at fault for not removing known tainted product. But if you read my previous post (above) I think there is pretty good evidence that it goes much farther back and this would be one way for them to stop the bleeding (so to speak) of continually having to add lots to the list while never actually acknowledging the contamination of more lots.

For the record, Brandy had only been given a few cans of this stuff. She had previously been eating Alpo and had been doing very well and gaining weight. Only after eating the Sprout did she suddenly become so sick.
Part of our vet’s objection to doing a post mortem was based on our lot #s not being on the list.

It cant get on the list unless someone puts it there.

So far a call to the FDA has not been returned.

]]> By: Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/comment-page-3/#comment-13063 Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:02:36 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/#comment-13063 Even if you view pets as only property basic capitalist theory requires that no harm come to it by the careless action of others... That being said, not even that level of care has been exhibited here. My dog Brandy was put to sleep on March 15th with a laundry list of then unexplained symptoms that the vet wrote off as "red herrings" for a pre-existing bladder tumor problem that we knew would one day cause her demise. On March 16th I watched the Today Show in horror as they listed those same symptoms in describing the recall. I quickly went to the cupboard and got out a can of the food and checked the website recall list. Sprout Beef Cuts & Gravy was there but not our lot # (Oct 09). I contacted the local NBC affiliate www.nbc26.com and was told that they knew all of the lots had not been listed. In talking to my vet, she was extremely dismissive and litterally shouted me down altough I do not believe that I was anything but reserved and rational with her. It appeared to me that she was in full mal-practice prevent mode. She did not want to cooperate in doing a post mortem sighting organ deterioration over the weekend even though I assured her that she had been kept cold and in a clean box. Night time temps had been in the teens here (Wi.). The TV station did an interview in which I emphasized that there was good evidence that there were many more un-identified lots to be found but the final "news" report focused not on the facts but my grief. I have been trying to get some agency or lab to actually test one of the remaining cans to no avail so far... I have watched over the last 10 days as lot after lot has been added to the list and now the total recall of all product albeit not because they admit contamination of any particular lot. In the absense of any actual science I am convinced by the events that the contaminations goes back MUCH farther than anyone has anticipated or is willing to admit. Please see my comments posted as events unfolded at http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=3012 I think that like our vet, Menu Foods put short term financial concerns over public health - but what they heck... the are only property, right? Even if you view pets as only property basic capitalist theory requires that no harm come to it by the careless action of others…

That being said, not even that level of care has been exhibited here. My dog Brandy was put to sleep on March 15th with a laundry list of then unexplained symptoms that the vet wrote off as “red herrings” for a pre-existing bladder tumor problem that we knew would one day cause her demise.

On March 16th I watched the Today Show in horror as they listed those same symptoms in describing the recall. I quickly went to the cupboard and got out a can of the food and checked the website recall list. Sprout Beef Cuts & Gravy was there but not our lot # (Oct 09). I contacted the local NBC affiliate http://www.nbc26.com and was told that they knew all of the lots had not been listed.

In talking to my vet, she was extremely dismissive and litterally shouted me down altough I do not believe that I was anything but reserved and rational with her. It appeared to me that she was in full mal-practice prevent mode. She did not want to cooperate in doing a post mortem sighting organ deterioration over the weekend even though I assured her that she had been kept cold and in a clean box. Night time temps had been in the teens here (Wi.).

The TV station did an interview in which I emphasized that there was good evidence that there were many more un-identified lots to be found but the final “news” report focused not on the facts but my grief.

I have been trying to get some agency or lab to actually test one of the remaining cans to no avail so far…

I have watched over the last 10 days as lot after lot has been added to the list and now the total recall of all product albeit not because they admit contamination of any particular lot.

In the absense of any actual science I am convinced by the events that the contaminations goes back MUCH farther than anyone has anticipated or is willing to admit.

Please see my comments posted as events unfolded at http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=3012

I think that like our vet, Menu Foods put short term financial concerns over public health - but what they heck… the are only property, right?

]]> By: Josh Bloem http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/comment-page-3/#comment-12557 Josh Bloem Sun, 25 Mar 2007 16:35:07 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/#comment-12557 Does anyone know whether or not 9 Lives cat food is on the recall list? Does anyone know whether or not 9 Lives cat food is on the recall list?

]]> By: darrell http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/comment-page-3/#comment-12512 darrell Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:28:22 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/#comment-12512 my pup was older but as teacups live to 20plus years she had 3to 7yrs. my closest friend. kayaked camped slept tight against my body almost every night for 17 yrs.saw me thru heart surgery. never judged always loved.vets have no doubt it was the recalled food that ended her life.i don't want huge money but after 72 hrs of my first contact with the phone bank i still have not been called back. have called twice more and they say they are to busy and calling who and when they can. IF YOUR PET IS ILL GO TO YOUR VET!!! DON'T CALL DON'T CALL MENU FOODS!!! LOOK ON THE WEB SITES ALL THE INFO YOU NEED IS THERE.THE TWO VETS I WAS FORCED TO GO TO TOOK HEROIC EFFORTS TO SAVE MY DOG WHEN NOT TIED TO THE PHONE ANSWERING ?????S. The FDA inspector called me at home 6:30 at night with orders from his boss to meet me soon and get the samples to the lab. they were on unlimited overtime for the weekend and the labs are open as the FDA wants to insure the problem doesn't enter the human food chain. PROFESSIONAL,POLITE.CONCERNED. I JUST WISH I COULD GET 1/10 THE EFFORT AND CONCERN FROM THE COMPANY REPS THAT ARE THE FOCUS OF THE PROBLEM my pup was older but as teacups live to 20plus years she had 3to 7yrs. my closest friend. kayaked camped slept tight against my body almost every night for 17 yrs.saw me thru heart surgery. never judged always loved.vets have no doubt it was the recalled food that ended her life.i don’t want huge money but after 72 hrs of my first contact with the phone bank i still have not been called back. have called twice more and they say they are to busy and calling who and when they can.
IF YOUR PET IS ILL GO TO YOUR VET!!! DON’T CALL DON’T CALL MENU FOODS!!! LOOK ON THE WEB SITES ALL THE INFO YOU NEED IS THERE.THE TWO VETS I WAS FORCED TO GO TO TOOK HEROIC EFFORTS TO SAVE MY DOG WHEN NOT TIED TO THE PHONE ANSWERING ?????S.
The FDA inspector called me at home 6:30 at night with orders from his boss to meet me soon and get the samples to the lab. they were on unlimited overtime for the weekend and the labs are open as the FDA wants to insure the problem doesn’t enter the human food chain. PROFESSIONAL,POLITE.CONCERNED. I JUST WISH I COULD GET 1/10 THE EFFORT AND CONCERN FROM THE COMPANY REPS THAT ARE THE FOCUS OF THE PROBLEM

]]> By: Kim http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/comment-page-3/#comment-11923 Kim Sat, 24 Mar 2007 23:52:28 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/#comment-11923 Well, it took a while, but I found easy-to-read lists of the recalled items for Iams, Eukanuba, Hills/Science Diet and Mighty Dog (Purina). Maureen - according to Purina, Mighty Dog Cans are made in a Purina owned facility, not a Menu Foods plant. 4 different links are here: http://playingbig.blogspot.com/2007/03/easy-to-use-lists-of-recalled-products.html Right before I posted this I found a Correction posted by the AP that they have NOT expanded the dates. This is horrible news, and infuriates me. What the hell are they thinking? It's here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/24/AR2007032400672.html Well, it took a while, but I found easy-to-read lists of the recalled items for Iams, Eukanuba, Hills/Science Diet and Mighty Dog (Purina).

Maureen - according to Purina, Mighty Dog Cans are made in a Purina owned facility, not a Menu Foods plant.

4 different links are here: http://playingbig.blogspot.com.....ducts.html

Right before I posted this I found a Correction posted by the AP that they have NOT expanded the dates. This is horrible news, and infuriates me. What the hell are they thinking? It’s here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00672.html

]]> By: Jaycee http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/comment-page-3/#comment-11916 Jaycee Sat, 24 Mar 2007 23:33:40 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/#comment-11916 I am boycotting all brands associated with the recall, including those that outsource their canned food, regardless if they claim to monitor the quality. Sadly, this will include Innova and Natura products, as they utilize Menu Foods for their wet foods, and I've been feeding my dogs their dry kibble for years. They are guilty by association in my book. I hope they have enough integrity to think twice about continuing their relationship with Menu Foods. I sent them a letter yesterday, although, I doubt they will even take notice. I am also boycotting Petsmart and Petco, as they source some of their store-branded foods from Menu Foods, as well as selling most of the foods that are in the recall. This is the only way to get these major corporations, as well as some on the fringes, to wake up! We must affect their bottom line until better regulations and standards for pet food take place! Worse yet, WalMart is still selling the recalled foods in many stores across the country!!! Wake Up America!!! I am so sorry for anyone who has lost their pet or pets to this tragedy. My heart goes out to each and every one of you. You are in my thoughts and prayers. Be strong! Together, our voices will be heard! Together, we can make a difference!! I am boycotting all brands associated with the recall, including those that outsource their canned food, regardless if they claim to monitor the quality. Sadly, this will include Innova and Natura products, as they utilize Menu Foods for their wet foods, and I’ve been feeding my dogs their dry kibble for years. They are guilty by association in my book. I hope they have enough integrity to think twice about continuing their relationship with Menu Foods. I sent them a letter yesterday, although, I doubt they will even take notice. I am also boycotting Petsmart and Petco, as they source some of their store-branded foods from Menu Foods, as well as selling most of the foods that are in the recall. This is the only way to get these major corporations, as well as some on the fringes, to wake up! We must affect their bottom line until better regulations and standards for pet food take place! Worse yet, WalMart is still selling the recalled foods in many stores across the country!!! Wake Up America!!!

I am so sorry for anyone who has lost their pet or pets to this tragedy. My heart goes out to each and every one of you. You are in my thoughts and prayers.

Be strong! Together, our voices will be heard! Together, we can make a difference!!

]]> By: Carol J http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/comment-page-3/#comment-11911 Carol J Sat, 24 Mar 2007 23:20:08 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/#comment-11911 Collett Finey, if your pets are throwing up, stop feeding them these products. Animals will throw up food if something is not right about it. It may smell OK to them but their system will get rid of it if it's bad. Unfortunately some pets didn't show signs until it was too late. The only way to be sure if the food is good is to go natural or make it yourself. I would not trust any commercial pet food company, just do a little research of "commercial pet food" and you'll get most of your answers. Collett Finey, if your pets are throwing up, stop feeding them these products. Animals will throw up food if something is not right about it. It may smell OK to them but their system will get rid of it if it’s bad. Unfortunately some pets didn’t show signs until it was too late. The only way to be sure if the food is good is to go natural or make it yourself. I would not trust any commercial pet food company, just do a little research of “commercial pet food” and you’ll get most of your answers.

]]> By: Kathryn Schultz http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/comment-page-3/#comment-11907 Kathryn Schultz Sat, 24 Mar 2007 23:10:43 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/23/pet-food-recall-a-matter-of-responsibility/#comment-11907 You should be made aware that these comments: "Drudge Report Rat Poison In Chinese Wheat Killed Pets Powerful comments in this article…whewh! http://www.drudge.com/news/92502/rat-poison-chinese-wheat-killed-pets Comment by Mike — March 23, 2007 @ 9:23 pm" are NOT from the official Matt Drudge web site, which is http:www.drudgereport.com While it is very true that Matt Drudge deplores our importation of products from China, anyone who listens to him regularly recognizes immediately that these are NOT his political opinions. I very much agree that we need to work to see that the safety regulations for inspecting food for human consumption that have been removed are restored and strengthened and that new regulations for inspecting the quality and safety of the food of our beloved pets should be enacted and stringently enforced. You should be made aware that these comments:

“Drudge Report
Rat Poison In Chinese Wheat Killed Pets
Powerful comments in this article…whewh!
http://www.drudge.com/news/925.....illed-pets
Comment by Mike — March 23, 2007 @ 9:23 pm”

are NOT from the official Matt Drudge web site, which is
http:www.drudgereport.com

While it is very true that Matt Drudge deplores our importation of products from China, anyone who listens to him regularly recognizes immediately that these are NOT his political opinions.

I very much agree that we need to work to see that the safety regulations for inspecting food for human consumption that have been removed are restored and strengthened and that new regulations for inspecting the quality and safety of the food of our beloved pets should be enacted and stringently enforced.

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