The bill now goes to the Assembly Appropriations Committee, according to Save Our Dogs. The State Department of Finance opposes the measure because it would increase costs–an insane move when the state faces a projected $21.3 billion (yes, billion!) budget shortfall–so it’s hoped that the bill will die there, but that’s not something opponents can count on.
It’s not too late to call and write, according to Susan Hamil, a longtime Bloodhound breeder and dog judge who is involved with CHIC and AKC’s Canine Health Foundation and is outspoken and passionate when it comes to this type of legislation. (Full disclosure: Susan is my vet’s wife and we’ve been friends for years.) We spoke earlier today about the bill’s progress–it was being debated in committee while we talked.
Kim Thornton: So have you been in Sacramento lobbying against this bill? I know John is there, or was yesterday.
Susan Hamil: John is there. He’s coming back this afternoon. Lots of organizations that I know wrote in opposing 250 are not listed as being opposed to it. It’s just criminal. The state of California is about to go bankrupt and [Democratic State Senate Majority Leader Dean] Florez is pulling out all the stops to get this passed. And I’m appalled at the money HSUS has that they’re putting into this legislation.
Kim Thornton: I thought HSUS wasn’t supporting this.
Susan Hamil: They are! Are they ever! It’s ASPCA that doesn’t support this.
Kim Thornton: It’s my understanding that HSUS has not come out in favor of it. [Note: HSUS makes no mention of SB250 on the legislation page of its website.]
Susan Hamil: John was telling me last night that when he went into Florez’s office, there was HSUS stuff all over the office. There were all kinds of brochures and signs. Don’t tell me they’re not behind this.
Kim Thornton: Do you think Arnold will veto it if it passes?
Susan Hamil: I have no idea. I think if they don’t pass a budget, he’s going to veto everything.
Kim Thornton: So what’s going to happen if 250 passes?
Susan Hamil: On the surface, it sounds like something everybody could support, but when you really read the bill, you realize that if, in a city like Laguna Beach, where leaf blowers are illegal, my neighbor could have some guy using an illegal leaf blower, cause my dog to bark, I could be cited, my intact dog could be taken away from me and spayed or neutered, and the only hearing process would be through animal control. It’s worded in a way that animal control can be very arbitrary in how they approach this.
Kim Thornton: What would be a better piece of legislation, if any?
Susan Hamil: I think we should quit all this stupid 250 and 241 and have everybody get together and lobby to keep the Hayden Bill. The Hayden Bill did two things: It increased the hold time for stray animals and it required that they be spayed or neutered. That was a huge issue because it made sure that animal shelters, which are the largest source of reproductively intact animals, spayed or neutered pets before they went out.
Also, they never separate the cat and dog problems. Those are two completely different problems. 250 would make feral cat feeders criminals. They’d come in and round up all those cats and do what with them? Kill them.
Kim Thornton: Why do you think this type of legislation is so popular even though it doesn’t work?
Susan Hamil: Here’s the thing. If you get involved in the shelter world and rescue, you become so angry at people for not taking care of animals the way you think they should take care of them, that you end up restricting pet ownership and making it so onerous. In your desire for retribution, your frustration and anger and your perception of the way animals are treated, then you’ll do anything to try and punish people rather than help pets. People want to believe the worst of everything and they somehow think that if you never have puppies again…. Everybody’s ‘buy local, buy local’; well, what are we doing? We’re putting everybody who could have a litter of puppies that you could actually go see where they’re born out of business. We’re making it too onerous for them to actually have a litter of puppies. So what do we get? We get the lowest common denominator.
Kim Thornton: We get cheap imports from Eastern Europe.
Susan Hamil: And how are we going to stop that?
They’re getting more and more clever in how they present these bills. They know what the public will accept.
Susan checks the news online as we talk. Well, it looks like 250 is out of committee. The vote was 6 to 3. It’s so anti-dog. If your neutered dog is barking and carrying on, then what do they do? Take it away? We’re passing so many anti-pet laws: anti-barking, limiting numbers of pets.
This is the thing that makes me crazy. If you were in the shelter business and you were complaining because you had to kill dogs or cats, then why would you keep restricting pet ownership?
Me again. After I finished transcribing the interview with Susan, I decided to call and see if John was back from Sacramento. I asked him about the lobbying process and what he thought would happen next. Here’s the Twitterized version of what he said.
John Hamil, DVM: It’s a difficult and highly political process. Decisions are generally made along political lines and votes are almost invariably by party. Our two major points are “costs more, doesn’t solve the problem.” And in many instances, aggravates it. There is no nationally recognized group that ’s listed in support of this bill and many of the groups that supported 1634 are not listed in support of 250. Many of the groups have actually taken the trouble to write positions against it.
I was asked ‘Gee, you’re a veterinarian. It seems counterintuitive that you wouldn’t be in favor of this. Can you explain why the AVMA is against this?’ So I got to say two things: it interferes with the doctor-client-patient relationship on a life-threatening procedure that has many complications, not only of anesthesia, surgery, blood loss and infection, but also as complications of postsurgical effects on increasing certain cancers and causing certain orthopedic problems. But the major thing is that it doesn’t save dogs’ lives and it costs more money.
I specifically pointed out, using their example of Santa Cruz, that Santa Cruz, which is the best model they have, is not as successful as its neighbors who don’t have [mandatory spay/neuter].
It’s frustrating because you don’t find out until you’re standing outside in the hall how they’re going to set it up. They say ‘You’ve got five minutes, two speakers.’ So all the stuff you have prepared that would give you a logical flow of thought, you just don’t have time to do that. You have to pick out ‘Okay, you emphasize these two things; I’ll try to do these two things,’ and you end up not doing as good a job as you’d like to do.
It’s not over. It still has to go to finance. The California department of finance went out on the biggest limb I’ve ever seen. They said this was going to cost millions and millions of dollars to reimburse local governments.
I think ultimately that we’re going to prevail because we do have the economic thing on our side and we have the facts on our side. I don’t think the governor is going to allow very many bills to pass that have any money tied to them.
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